Originally by: Jade Constantine

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Originally by: Darius JOHNSON

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Originally by: Darius JOHNSON

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I believe these meetings are supposed to be scheduled in such a way that all may attend. 4pm East Coast US time on a week day is typically during the work day. I'm going to ask that you reschedule for a time when all of the elected representatives can attend.

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Someone seems to have conveniently overlooked this comment.

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Sorry Darius, couldn't find a way to do it this time. Still, we do have two meetings this week, I'm just posting up the details of the sunday one where you can bring up your votes and motions and whatnot. As we all agreed last week this mid-week one is for confirming the issues are properly documented and sent to Ank. Make sure you get yours done and emailed by the deadline on thursday and all well.

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Originally by: Jade Constantine

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Originally by: Aprudena Gist

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so why not have them saturday/sunday? how does it make any sense to not allow the elected members to participate?

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We're having one on Sunday.

This thursday one is a sign-off meeting to ensure we've got relevant documentation agreed for all the ISSUEs submission templates we're taking to Iceland (agreed from the previous weeks). They need to be bundled up and sent to CCP by ANK by thursday evening at the latest. The meeting in this case is a formality to let us sort out the last issues and double check everyone has done their stuff.

If we had to wait till sunday we'd be flying to Iceland with no Issues to discuss.

While I can understand that might make Darius' workload a little easier its probably not the best use of our time or CCP's ISK.

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Originally by: Farrqua

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Originally by: Jade Constantine

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Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto

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So anyone who opposes you is automatically a Goon and some insulting-sounding variety of animal, and as such their opinion can be discounted without further consideration? There are third-world dictators with less ego and chutzpah than that.

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You might have a point if the titans into monster truck thread didn't exist.

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Ok there has to be a point when common sense in these matters comes in to play. If the CSM and the playerbase can not actually tell the difference between Internet space ships and a frigging monster truck, well there is no wonder CCP has the attitude they do. I would too.

This makes absolutely no sense.

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Originally by: Arithron

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I was disappointed that the issues presented were hardly split at all. Poor issues were voted through simply by being lumped in with good ones, even though some representatives expressed concern for 'wooliness' and bad issues.

This can not happen again. All issues MUST be presented seperately on the forums for debate and discussion, and a vote taken on EACH issue, not a bunch of issues under a topic. Many of those issues that are now going to CCP are very poor, affect a small amount of Eve Players, and have not been explored further to see that they will have negative ramifications on the whole.

This undermines the percieved effectiveness of the CSM, both in the players eyes and CCP eyes.

PRESENT ISSUES SEPERATELY ON FORUMS (this is not an issue that needs voting on- its an underlying implication in the CSM documents).

You effectively votes 4 times for 60+ issues...very poor indeed.

Bruce Hansen

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